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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 05:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Richard Johannson
Hello Arkanon,
first of all i would let you know that its nice to get some feedback. Thanks
If the investigation is finished please include answers to the following concers
in your report:
1. Would you be able to sure find out if the Dev who was in the station took a screenshot from inside the station and relayed it to his buddys in BoB, or can you only ask him about this matter and have to belive, trust him?
Screenshots, Msn chatlogs, word of mouth rumours are impossible to prove. A dev could theoritcally meet up with a Icelandic Bob member in a downtown Rekyavik bar and hand him print copies of CCP's secret info. There about a billion ways CCP's secret information could be transferred without Arkanon even finding out about it.
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2. Are you 100% sure that a Dev can not delete a petition, and why would that not be possible for a person with his access level as a Dev and database Admin?
The Eve database isn't some simple database that you can just go and hit the delete button. Deleting an entry leaves trails in audit logs. Removing something form the Eve database isn't like emptying your computer's recycle bin or deleting some database row from your corp's killboard database
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3. Why was there no response to the petition which was filed to determine the reason of his intrusion?
I am really looking forward to your report, thanks for spending your WE to investigate!
The petition queue is horrible, i still haven't received an answer to my petition which i submitted 4 weeks ago.
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 05:48:00 -
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Edited by: pator gurl on 28/05/2007 05:52:34
Also regarding Darkstar1 corp -
Have you stopped to consider that a player who submitted the petition is on some holiday (Hint it's a 3 day weekend in the US and several parts of Europe) and hasn't visited your corp/alliance forums?
Maybe some Bob guy filed a petition because he visited your corp's pos while he was in a cloaked ship and he still got killed (that happened to me twice)
Maybe someone from the Goon alliance (who isn't in the DS1) corp filed a petition. More than 2k people in the alliance, have you asked everyone?
Also, after all this noise has been created do you think the person will own up to submitting the petition? He'll be crucified if he admits this.
And if CCP tells you who filed the petition then they are breaking their own laws.
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 05:53:00 -
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Originally by: Empyre
Edited by: Empyre on 28/05/2007 05:50:48
my aching head.. these arguments are parallel to a child asking 'why? why? why? why? why?' it's flippin MADDENING! when the heck did everything become a freakin conspiracy?!
ccp, seriously.. i know it's not good for your business model but you should honestly just say case closed, screw off. people like this infest every game.. they scream and cry hax every single time they get outgunned or get caught stat padding themselves.
lol, I like the way you think.
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 06:01:00 -
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Originally by: Richard Johannson
Sorry Dominique, but if a software update is released and a huge number of users i.e. has problems with it and all send a request how to install it propper to the same side, you think that is a thrednought too then?
Bad patches and Eve go hand in hand. It has happened so many times. You dont see a threadnaught for a bad patch.
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:01:00 -
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Originally by: Miasia
Originally by: CCP kieron
While this issue may seem to be 'the most trivial' as one player stated, it was the first issue brought forward by the accusing player alliance and seemingly the root of their discontent.
We are still continuing with our efforts. Please keep in mind this is an extended weekend and not all the staff are in the office to assist where needed.
Hi kierron,
for a database admin that is for sure possible.
DELETE FROM petitiontable where id="xxx";
Sharkbait is QA. He is not a database admin. I'm pretty sure QA doesn't get rights to the database.
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: pator gurl on 28/05/2007 14:03:07
What is it with people combining two different issues?
The two issues currently are:-
1. Sharkbait who got into the corp and left
2. CCP Admiral Chamrajnagar and his issue with an ISD member getting fired.
1 is not related to 2. Sharkbait is QA and can't touch the SQL Servers and for #2 there is no involvement of the database. Stop thinking that Sharkbait or any GM had anything todo with the database
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mantrata
Originally by: hilaw
For what its worth, the information being exposed to the masses officially is great, between the flaming. 
Actually, its padded and unreveiling.
It's not padded and unreveiling, it's just not the information you are looking for. No company will reveal full results of an internal investigation to the public. Doing so would they would break their own rules.
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Elspeth Vigneron
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Elspeth Vigneron
I don't buy the "privacy" excuse. Noone should have an expectation of in-game privacy. It sounds like you're trying to sweep this under the rug. I don't trust you. I have no reason to trust you. Every bit of law enforcement and forensic auditor training is saying: dig harder, there's something rotten here.
Your training failed. Whatever organisation you may belong to may now hang its head in shame, not because their training failed but because they hired you.
Ha, ha, ha.... That's one of the stupidist things I've read in the forum.
Refer to alleged "privacy" policy.
Present easily available EULA.
Point out, TWICE, IN BOLD, there is no expectation of privacy.
Get flamed by an idiot too whatever to read the post and too busy protecting BoB or Drama Queening against the Goons.
Here's a clue: I don't care about either side, I care that I'm not playing a rigged game.
CCP is lying about their ability to present exculpatory evidence. Clearly they can under the provisions of the EULA. Clearly they're not providing the evidence and are, once again, trying to sweep it under the rug. Trust is gone.
That deals with Evemails and Chatlogs. Not petitions sent to Customer Support Customer Support petitions are never released, but any company.
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Please Read..
Originally by: CCP kieron
It is not possible for a GM or Developer to delete petitions. Those tools quite simply, do not exist. Claims of petitions being deleted are therefore utter fabrication and completely groundless.
Um, here another quote also :
"Is your character stuck in space or station and cant play the game?. These petitions will be given high priority. Please be advised that petitions filed here regarding other issues than stuck characters will be deleted and repeated attempts may lead to an official warning."
Please note the "will be deleted" part.
*Cough*
It's a metaphor for "closing" the petition. Which means the petition still exists in the database and can be looked up in the future. However CCP should really rename that part of the text.
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pator gurl
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Posted - 2007.05.28 14:33:00 -
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Edited by: pator gurl on 28/05/2007 14:32:34
Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Originally by: pator gurl
It's a metaphor for "closing" the petition. Which means the petition still exists in the database and can be looked up in the future. However CCP should really rename that part of the text.
I'm not getting involved further, however :
Prove its not there. There is a group who no longer trusts CCP's word. It may well be there, and those people who no longer trust CCP cannot check.
Only way todo that would be to show you the system. if kieron says it's not there - then it isn't there. There is no way to prove or disprove it.
Likewise for the investigation results. They show you the results, they can't hold open court RL style and prove to you that their investigation results are correct
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